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Picking up a Body has Consequences

http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photo-cemetary-image5554215Tommy Ståhl had a question for me that deserves a complete response. He asked, “When someone gets back and picks up a new body,what then? His new body gets prenatals and engrams,the body has a new GE with a new R6-bank and BTs.. (He needs to do the bridge again?)”

My short answer was, “It varies.”  The following answer may have too much information for some so watch your step and bail out if it gets too deep. Any reader who has difficulty with the concept of a spiritual being  having the ability to be separate from and outliving his body should probably not continue.

I have been auditing since 1977 and have run into PCs who were: past-life Scientologists, past life OTs, people who picked up their current body when someone got really sick and gave up or got badly injured, and people who moved in and took over bodies on a temporary basis.

You can get a sense of the complexity that goes with picking up a body by reading History of Man and reading the transcript of The Role of Earth, but there are dozens of other lectures where Ron refers to taking over a body or picking it up and pretending to be the person who used to run the body.

The following examples may have been discussed in a book or lecture somewhere, but these are the ones I witnessed personally.


Some thetans are better at handling “fixer uppers” than others and when one of these thetans loses a body in battle or in an accident, he can get inspired to pick up another body in better shape and carry on without the need to grow a body from scratch. I have had two PCs who went through multiple bodies during the second World War. Both of these PCs ran standard Bridge processes and it did not seem to matter that some of the engrams were from the earlier body or the new body.

Past life clears and OTs have usually had trouble when they were audited in a church HGC. In some cases, their state of case was invalidated and in other cases, they were overrun, or run on processes that had no charge in the first place.

As staff cases got worse and worse through neglect and abuse, the handling of PCs got more robotic and invalidative. As a result, most staff members, not being clear and having little reality on past lives, would snicker when a new pc attempted to explain that they had been in Scientology before.


Picking up a new body at birth or during pregnancy might cause a being to encounter prenatal engrams, but I have never seen these to be difficult to run when they were encountered. Yes, the pc does pick up a new GE with the new body and any issues with this GE seem to be handled with Dianetics in most cases. The pc usually runs the GE’s engrams as if they were his own.

When the being picks up a new infant body, he seems to pick up entities (body thetans) that are inherited from the mother and father. Bts are compulsive copiers so it is quite usual when auditing a pc on OT processes to encounter entities (Bts) that have a connection to mother and father.

Someone who has gone clear before this lifetime does not seem to have an R6 bank nor do they have engrams in restimulations. Whenever we would encounter an engram in session, it would blow on inspection. The pc would say something like, “Oh yes! The train blew up because I forgot to…” and that would be all there was to it.


I encountered more cases of this than I ever expected. Perhaps it is because the person having gotten himself a new body with a new family decides to fit in keep quiet about it. He becomes the person he is replacing and nobody is the wiser.  Sometimes the family notices something but can’t bring themselves to believe what has happened.

I wonder how many times families have remarked that Uncle Ned has not been himself since he came home from the hospital or that Mary does not seem the same since her accident. The change is not all bad because I know of one thirteen year old boy whose life was transformed for the better when he recovered from a serious accident. He seemed much brighter and alive.

I have personal knowledge of several people I know who picked up their current bodies in their teenage years. They did not discover this until they had some auditing and the takeover has not been a major source of charge to be handled.


Sometimes a person will come home from the hospital and their behavior will be so wrong that it interferes with their homelife. One PC had a spouse who was operated on several times and on the fourth return from the hospital the spouse was definitely a different person with a different language set. Once the pc realized what had happened, the pc was able to weather the situation and stay sane.

There are also times when a being has moved in on a body but is not completely in control. It can act like a personality or a valence which is only evident under certain circumstances. This condition can persist for many years. In fact, the personality that is most obvious to everyone else may be the “alternate” being and strange things can happen when auditing occurs.

If you have studied the behavior of entities, you will understand that many people have entities with considerable skill who can take over the body and carry on when the person in charge is overwhelmed. You might say these entities act as co-pilots and handle situations when the pilot is indisposed. I have encountered this many times when we were handling an out-of-valence situation. An entity can be anything, a complete valence or a fixed idea or a persisting thought, but it is a living being and responds to auditing.

I know of several couples who went through hell when one partner got auditing and the alternate and highly social personality got “exorcised”. After the auditing, the person was not the same and the relationship suffered because of the drastic change in affinity between the partners.

I would expect that the alternate being was brought to view the overt that occurred when he did the takeover and decided to leave.

I was not involved in the auditing that acted as an “exorcism” but I was involved in handling the upsets of the partners and this required finding out what had actually happened.


High ARC auditing will bring to light any misownership problems where more than one being is trying to control a body. Handling all beings involved with compassion and full application of the auditor’s code will straighten things out. If there is charge to be handled, consulting with the beings involved will produce uniformly satisfying results. The pc wins and so do the entities who have been thinking they were the pc because their actual identities are sorted out and all charge is handled. With the right auditing, everybody wins.

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Centurion  on June 7th, 2013

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rine  on June 7th, 2013

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