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A technical explanation why NOTs auditing as done in the COS can be harmful to your health and sanity

NOTSBrief summary:
NOTs auditing was first used as a repair for L Ron Hubbard after he ran Dianetics on himself after reaching the state of clear. It then became the preferred method of handling body thetans remaining after running OT 3. Trained auditors have had great wins from NOTs while OTs who were only trained to solo audit seems to have more difficulties than wins.

What is really happening?
The difficulty appears to lie in the documentation. Read the Flag NOTs pack if you care to.

Regular auditing is done with high ARC and a good comm cycle. OT auditing, including NOTs, is done with a “zero attitude” which is something you expect from your ethics officer or a sec checker on a good day. Conversation with body thetans is discouraged. You are expected to get rid of them, not talk to them. They are treated as “things”, not living beings.

Ask some of your OT friends if body thetans are living beings and you will be surprised at the responses you get. Try auditing a pc and treating him or her as a thing and see how much case gain that pc gets. You will invariably get an upset pc and a red tag. Body thetans (spiritual entities or spiritual beings) are tougher than the usual preclear and you can get them to leave you if you follow the NOTs directions but you have not brought them up tone nor have you released them from the incidents they were stuck in. You are instructed to mock up a “thetan hand” and scrape the little suckers off if they don’t leave of their own accord. This is not auditing in any real sense of the word. It is more like the crude practices called exorcism in the Catholic church

The body thetans (spiritual entities) are removed from the vicinity of the OT and the OT feels relief because the pressure or the somatic is gone. The spiritual entity is discarded and forgotten like the inmates of asylums are discarded when their insurance runs out.

They do not really leave and get on with life and they are in really bad condition. They are angry and feel betrayed and they have counter intention to the person who mishandled them and to the organization that is running this abusive process.

What are the consequences of this out of ARC auditing?

When I was at Flag, I noticed auditing rooms that had gray masses hanging from the ceiling and plastered to the walls. These were entities left from incomplete auditing cycles and it felt creepy when I entered these rooms.

When you are on the OT levels, the emphasis is on producing hours of auditing, not on getting wins. You are constantly under scrutiny and you are given security checks (I am not auditing you) instead of auditing for case gain. Your entire purpose on those 6 month sec checks was to get out of there and get back home. The church’s entire purpose was to reg you for more intensives and for IAS donations. Between the insane three swing F/Ns and the incessant regging, your desperation level increased until you could F/N while crying inside. The examiners could not spot an ARC break needle if you kept your fixed smile in place and you learned to do what was needed to get out of the madhouse and back on the plane home.

So, what about the body thetans that were removed from the people in session?

Some followed the person home and kept out of sight. They are not stupid you know. They would only show up when the OT would do something that restimulated them. Then they would take control and make the OT lie or make others wrong and that would make people shake their heads and think that this was another OT who didn’t seem to be right in the head.

These uprooted but unhandled entities and clusters are boiling with rage and upset and they have a terrible effect on a person’s body and on his thinking. They add stress to the OTs life along with the stress the church has caused and the person becomes predisposed to illnesses of all kinds.

The rest keep accumulating at Flag, at the Sandcastle, the Freewinds, at every Advanced Org in the world like a collection of bad smells. There is a cloud of upset entities around all of these Advanced Scientology organizations and anyone with any spiritual sensitivity can see it. I would think that it also affects new public when they approach these places for the first time.

So what now?

We have definitely proven to our satisfaction that NOTs and OT 3 are harmful to entities because those actions stir up entities and do not bring them to a release point. The OT material mentions the possibility of running the grades and clearing an entity, but I have never heard of it being done in practice. They are audited until they move off or blow and that is it.

There are at least two groups in the independent field that are taking an active role in handling these upset beings at the Advanced Orgs, Ron’s Org Grenchen and the SRT team. These two groups are delivering high ARC OT auditing which treats body thetans (spiritual entities) as living beings. They do remote auditing of these clusters at various Advanced Orgs. For more information see: http://independent-spiritual-technology.com/discussion/index.php?topic=882.0 (registration is required)

These groups also repair OTs who have been damaged by their church auditing.

I really hate to break this to you, but it appears that those doing Solo NOTS at home may also be generating a cloud of distressed entities as a result of their auditing if they are not trained auditors.

Some of you have observed your OT friends becoming less and less buoyant and enthusiastic as they moved up the OT levels. We have attributed this in the past to the fact that they were becoming LESS self determined with each level completed because of the suppressive church policies which forbade them from thinking on their own and communicating freely.

I am sure that is one factor as it does come up in repair sessions frequently, but now we have spotted the real reason why OTs on Solo NOTs do not get better as expected. The NOTs processes rarely produce case gain in the entities who are subjected to them. Unhandled entities produce a world of difficulties for the person who is afflicted with them. See some examples at http://spiritual-rescue-technology.com/?p=135

Friends do not let friends do NOTs.

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9 Comments

jim wolery  on July 26th, 2014

I can easily see how what you describe might occur, Dave, but I must say that was not my experience. I received a little over 100 hrs of NOT’s under Mayo, with my auditor being Julie, his wife, in 1980. My personal experience was that, while admittedly not seeking to encourage BT’s to become *teammates*, neither was the process what seemed to me at the time to be out ARC with or for them. There was definitely an encouragement toward them to find what they’d like to do, and/or go where they’d like to go, bit I don’t recall any indention to simply *get rid* of them. For me, the EP was both profound and extremely stable. I can only assume that NOT’s services in later years (late ’80’s to early 2000’s) were simply MUCH different than what I received- a happenstance for which I am ever more grateful as time goes on.

OldAuditor  on July 27th, 2014

Jim, I hope you noticed that I said “NOTs auditing as done in the COS”.

NOTs has been delivered outside the church without the liabilities I mentioned in the article. Well trained auditors could deliver NOTs effectively and avoid the liabilities of running an out of ARC session. They would apply auditing basics properly and not robotically follow the NOTs instructions. My EP was profound and extremely stable, although I did not find out until much later that I had barely begun to handle the vast quantities of entities available to be handled.

David Mayo and the rest of us delivering NOTs outside church walls provided encouragement toward entities to find what they’d like to do, and/or go where they’d like to go. Being a trained auditor, that is what I did with all of my NOTs sessions whether inside the church or not.

I was still receiving audited NOTs in 1984 and I noticed the difference in auditor attitude from the first days of audited NOTs. Auditors had more of a sec checker beingness than an auditor beingness. If you mentioned doing something they felt was an overt, they would freeze up and it was no longer safe to originate to them.

jim wolery  on July 27th, 2014

Yes, Dave, I did notice that you qualified your points “as done in COS”, and further took that to mean “currently”, or “for many years now”, that’s why I noted that my services took place in 1980 and under a different technical culture (Mayo).

I was gone by ’84, so never experienced or observed the shift in auditor attitude that you describe, but I’m sure it’s accurate, and explains much about the quality and nature of products since that time- both technically and organizationally. I’m glad, frankly, that I missed it.

Maurice  on July 28th, 2014

David,
What you’re describing is the result of the suppression in the CoS starting from the mid 80s to the present.
The NOTs I received in 1980 at St Hill was great, as were the solo sessions I did from 1998 through 2012 (post-CoS).
NOTS done CORRECTLY works just fine.

OldAuditor  on July 28th, 2014

Maurice, I agree. I received great relief from the NOTs I received, but I saw many who did not.

Furthermore, I experienced loss of certain abilities on NOTs because some entities were removed who had been doing certain functions for me for many years (remembering names).
We did not communicate much with entities on NOTs, only enough to get them away from us. I did not find out what they were capable of until I developed Spiritual Rescue Technology (SRT) and found that some entities were actually helping me in ways I was not aware of. SRT lets us free the entities from past incidents and then allows us to put them to work if they wish it. It is a true symbiotic relationship. When you have entities working with you, it is like having parallel processors to do tasks while you are engaged in other important tasks.

Maurice  on July 28th, 2014

David,
Interesting data. As for me, my attention is no longer on that area, so no more handling is necessary. For the last 2 years I’ve been running stuff on my own track – nothing new there, been doing that all along – but I’m now able to access incidents that were totally occluded before. Very happy with the results I’ve been getting.

Michelle  on January 17th, 2018

Well Dave, I can only but totally agree with what you wrote. My life after OT 5 despite of the numerous wins I had during the auditing went down,down,down….so what do I do now?

Michelle  on January 17th, 2018

Well Dave, I can only but totally agree with what you wrote. My life after OT 5 despite of the numerous wins I had during the auditing went down,down,down….so what do I do now? Help would be really appreciated here

OldAuditor  on January 20th, 2018

Michelle, Many people have failed to get gains on OT5 and I repair the upset in just a few sessions. SRT counseling gives a person the gains they were told to expect from the OT levels and I do this regularly with people who have had little or no auditing. Give me a call or send me an email and lets get you the gains you were promised.

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