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Including what we found in Scientology before it became a cult

Outside the Church of Scientology you may question everything

As a follow-up to my last post, I want to suggest that you should become more curious.

You have been operating for years on the basis that the Church of Scientology should control what you looked at or who you talked to. Even if you left the church because of out-tech or off-policy actions that harmed you,  you may find that you still recoil at the idea of reading “entheta” articles.

I am merely suggesting that you become curious. You do not want to overwhelm yourself with the  information that exists about harmful actions done by the church you supported for many years. Take it a bit at a time.

If you have had the usual experiences in Scientology, you will still have a sense of betrayal that your contributions and your hard work have been invalidated because you were not willing to sacrifice more to play the game demanded by church management. A little curiosity will give you some surprising answers.

If you are willing to read the stories posted on websites listed on this page, you will discover the hidden motives behind all of the cruelty that you experienced or observed. You will learn that none of those off-policy actions were accidental.

If you are like most newcomers to the world outside the church of Scientology, you will experience relief when you discover that you were not being handled standardly and that all of your suspicions were accurate.

You are entering a new community of independent beings and you may have to unlearn some patterns from your church days. No matter what contributions you made in the church or what posts you held, you are here on the same basis as the rest of us and your current rank amongst the independents is earned by what you contribute and how valuable that is to the individuals in the group. Some people have trouble remembering that.

If you find yourself being admonished for having some viewpoint about the tech or about Ron feel free to tell the offender to get lost.  Your observations are valid for you and as long as you do not enforce them on others, you will do fine.

People are free to adhere to whatever policies they were taught, but such policies were worthless in terms of keeping Scientology free from SPs so any reference to them as a source of authority on what is right or wrong will not do anyone credit. Quoting policies or Technical bulletins to clarify questions is a different matter entirely.

We are a growing community of independent beings and are free to observe and to comment on what we observe. Any effort to block that communication and control the conclusions made smacks of the suppressive actions of the church we departed from.

Any action made to keep people from asking questions about the tech and bad results from applying the tech is an effort to conceal the truth. You are free to comment favorably  or critically on the tech, but it helps if you stick to what you have experienced yourself.

You are also free to do research and ask questions about LRH, his personal life, his successes and his overts against scientology public and staff.

If you feel that there are areas so sacred that that they cannot be questioned, you are shutting yourself off from the fruits of observation.

If you feel there is some value in claiming to be a scientologist, whatever that is today, by all means do it. There are many others who call themselves ex-scientologists but are working to help others recover from their church experiences.

Those of us who have looked into the darker corners may call ourselves what we wish, but we have certainty on what we observed. We do not need labels to prove who we are or what we know.

There are true gems of wisdom to be found in Scientology, but they are often buried in false data and willful misapplication. If you feel otherwise, that is your choice. The more you look and observe what has happened to scientology public and staff, the more you will be inclined to help others escape from the abuse that dominates Scientology activities.

We are discovering the truth about scientology’s history in many different forums.Many of these are listed on the right sidebar. The questioning about scientology management and LRH has not run its course yet and we will all have a chance to accept or reject what comes out of these discussions.

You have a right to decide what is an acceptable truth for yourself. Others have an equal right to decide what is true for them. They may not be the same.

We no longer are bound by a code that enforces a particular “truth”. We are free to look and to comment, and to decide for ourselves.

In our searching and in our discussions, we try to follow the Second Rule for Happy Living: Create only those effects that others can experience easily. We may not always succeed, but are still trying.


craig houchin  on February 16th, 2010

Nicely stated. Thanks.

ButterflyChaser  on February 16th, 2010

Whenever I read one of your beautiful posts, I literally heave sighs of relief. You seem to articulate so succinctly those things which are the crux of the “Scientology problem”. I am saddened with those posters on other boards who are still trying to shove Scientology down our throats while we are trying to sort out our feelings about the subject. It’s like we can’t even breathe before they are cramming something else down our windpipe. They are getting the opposite reaction to their communication which is more disaffection, not less. Less ARC, not more.
Sites like yours are like a breath of fresh air.
Thank you so very much. I send you a big hug. And I am a darned good “hugger”!

Fellow Traveller  on February 17th, 2010

It really does get back to personal integrity, doesn’t? There is an undercurrent to the observation called out by personal integrity — one should be willing, dare I say even interested or as you so appropriately state it curious, to observe or look.

I have observed an interesting phenomena where church members will “maintain their integrity” by not only not looking, not wanting to or not being curious to look.

What’s it is a most wonderful process when done correctly which you most astutely indicate has everything to do with gradients: What’s it? Oh, it’s a temple of sheeple.

lunamoth  on February 17th, 2010

Old Auditor,

By the end of your post, above, I was remembering my earliest experiences in scientology, and how the concept of one’s own personal truth as you express it here, first hit home 30-something years ago.

It was the second thing I heard in scientology that made me what to know more. The first was when someone looked into my eyes and said “YOU are an immortal, spiritual being.”

After years of training, auditing and being slowly indoctrinated into a “group think” that has no direct relationship with either of those two fundamental truths, I stand here and say that these are now, 30 years later, among the few personal truths I take with me upon leaving the church behind.

EVERYthing else will now have to be re-evaluated as truth. And anything that gets in the way of that continuing discovery of the truth is being discarded, attacked or ignored. And it does come, doesn’t it? Things are thrown in your way, fall into your way, and sometimes you find that you are even putting stuff in the way of it yourself.

The truth is that even those who seem to be completely, unshakably certain in their own beliefs are finding that, outside of the church, there is not enough agreement to make some of their old solutions work, and certainly not enough agreement to make the old attempts at control stick. People who have experienced the squashing of their reach, their questions, their disagreements and their very beingness, are not anxious to have, nor often even willing to have any particular “tech” or “policy” used against their newly-won freedoms of expression and inquiry.

So my question is, if there is no agreement for such tech or policy as is used to control what you can ask and say, and if that tech or policy therefore doesn’t work, and if scientology always works, is that even scientology? I don’t mean “did LRH write it?” I mean, does it fit into the spiritual philosophy that grants me the power to determine for myself, an immortal spiritual being, what is true for me?

My answer is, no. It doesn’t work. It doesn’t work, and that is not true scientology.

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