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Including what we found in Scientology before it became a cult

On being taken seriously as a religion

I know that calling the Scientology applied religious philosophy a religion is problematic.

It for sure isn’t a traditional religion, with its focus on a god or gods. Its rites and rituals are not concerned with the worship of a god or gods.

It is instead a philosophy and a way to ease the suffering of the spirit, and when that is accomplished, to enhance and groom the spirit for lifetimes to come.

But the Church of Scientology fought long and hard for religious recognition. Not recognition from the planet’s spiritual leaders, mind you.

The Church of Scientology busted its balls getting recognition from the damned IRS.

Even Mike Rinder’s appearance at the University Philosophical Society of Trinity College Dublin was an attempt to publicly do what the Radical Corporate “Church” of Miscavology won’t or can’t do: conduct a cogent discussion on why the Scientology applied religious philosophy is and should be considered a religion and recognized as such.

If David Miscavige believes that Scientology is a religion, why isn’t he supplying trained articulate people for such activities himself?

Is it possible that Miscavige has hammered all remaining such people into the dirt?

Regardless, I have for years watched to see what the US government will conclude regarding the Rastafari. Specifically, the Rastafari have a sacrament called The Reasoning, in which, after an opening prayer, burning cannabis is passed around a circle of adherents who use the cannabis to commune with the God called Jah.

Because the possession and use of cannabis is illegal in most countries, including Jamaica, Rastafari often find themselves at odds with law enforcement. Even as recently as two years ago, the issues of Rastafari religious freedom and cannabis use have been in US courts.

So I arrive at this topic, in which most recently  some people are trying to brazenly invent “religions” to protect some criminal behavior from government persecution.

The most obvious one that caught my eye is that of a group of people in Sweden (1) (2) (3) who have obtained government recognition for their religion, whose central tenet – the right to file-share — has apparently been formally recognized by the Swedish government.

Because the Church of Kopimism worked so hard at this recognition, it becomes obvious that it was just a cynical effort to make internet sharing of things normally considered copyright-protected as “religious freedom”.

The US government…and other governments…are going to have to sit down and make sure they know what is encompassed in religious freedom and practice.

The US has already drawn a line in the sand with FLDS leader Warren Jeffs.

The antics of the Church of Scientology in the courts of Texas and Florida are simply going to accelerate the process of turning the religious freedom debate into a black-and-white issue.

Miscavige can only come out the loser.

And he has only himself to blame for it.

— written by Plain Old Thetan

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scholar  on February 24th, 2012

My understanding of the way it works is that any religion has to follow general laws, except where they are exempt for religious purposes, in some cases but they must follow criminal law.

Some laws can and do conflict with some religions. For instance polygamy in some Mormon sects, and Islam. Only in Islam you have to be able to afford four wives because you have to treat them equally. That’s hard to do for most of them unless they’re very wealthy.

None can create a religion that uses human sacrifice as it would infringe on the right to life of others.

As far as FLDS and Warren Jeffs go, they got him for violating a crime.

Other than that, this line between religion and the state has been moved around from time to time. It can be bad if they get into doctrines but protecting people from crime is what we erect a governments for—to protect rights.

Overall  on February 25th, 2012

Does anyone out there know how the Church actually persuaded/convinced the IRS to recognize SCN as a religion.

I am sorry to have to say this, but I agree with an article I read on this site that said that SCN became a cult in 1965 (I believe that was around the time of the Sea Org invention).

It has become more and more obvious that it is a money making machine and being annointed as a religion by the IRS just makes it worse.

What was the IRS thinking?

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